Legislature(2009 - 2010)CAPITOL 106

03/17/2010 08:00 AM House EDUCATION


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08:04:33 AM Start
08:04:45 AM Confirmation Hearing(s)
08:04:55 AM Professional Teaching Practices Commission
08:29:23 AM HB206
09:58:07 AM Adjourn
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Professional Teaching Practices
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        HB 206-HIGH SCHOOL ASSESSM'T/POSTSECONDARY CLASS                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:29:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON announced that the  final order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL NO.  206, "An  Act establishing  a career  assessment                                                               
requirement  in public  schools;  and  relating to  postsecondary                                                               
courses for secondary school students."                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
[Although  not formally  stated,  HB  206, 26-LS0765\S,  Mischel,                                                               
4/22/09 was before the committee.]                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:30:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON  divided HB 206  into three purposes:   (1) WorkKeys                                                               
as  a  career  preparedness  assessment;  (2)  secondary  student                                                               
enrollment  in postsecondary  institutions; (3)  modifications in                                                               
school  district student  count  periods.   He  advised that  the                                                               
three separate  issues would be  discussed individually  in order                                                               
to determine the merits of each.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:32:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER referred  to the  third issue  and stated                                                               
that after  her review  of testimony  and data,  modifications of                                                               
the count  period "missed  our mark."   The evidence  that school                                                               
districts  can  control  the  ebb   and  flow  of  enrollment  is                                                               
anecdotal  and she  said she  was not  prepared to  continue with                                                               
this segment of the bill.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:34:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  P.  WILSON  agreed with  Representative  Gardner.                                                               
She reviewed  the various reasons  that school  counts fluctuate,                                                               
all  of which  have  nothing  to do  with  what  might have  been                                                               
considered  a  "push-out" problem  at  one  time, and  urged  the                                                               
committee to drop that aspect of the bill.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:35:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MUNOZ strongly disagreed  with expanding the count                                                               
period  due to  the  resulting  burden on  school  staff and  the                                                               
unintended consequences to smaller schools.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:36:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   EDGMON  joined   the   chorus   in  support   of                                                               
eliminating this section of the bill.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:37:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON agreed  that  this  section of  the  bill was  best                                                               
deleted;  nevertheless,   concerns  remain  about  the   loss  of                                                               
students throughout  the school year.   In fact, keeping  kids in                                                               
school is  a topic that  school districts must identify  with the                                                               
support of legislative policy.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:39:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BUCH echoed  the thoughts  of the  committee, and                                                               
added that  many districts  have seen  improvement in  this area,                                                               
which  is encouraging.   However,  the proposed  legislation does                                                               
not enhance the effort.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:40:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON recalled  the various  student count  modifications                                                               
that the committee considered, and  stressed that the discussions                                                               
have merited  significant attention from  school administrations,                                                               
which has elevated attention to the problem.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:41:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  P. WILSON  pointed out  one valuable  aspect that                                                               
arose during  discussions about  the student  count period.   She                                                               
reminded the  committee that school districts  would benefit from                                                               
using  data  from the  previous  year  for funding,  rather  than                                                               
waiting for the student count in October.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:44:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON elaborated  on the  benefits and  drawbacks of  the                                                               
aforementioned funding concept.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:46:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON moved  to adopt Conceptual Amendment  2 that deleted                                                               
Sec. 2 through  Sec. 6 of the bill, and  deleted "and relating to                                                               
student counts  for school funding  purposes." from the  title of                                                               
the bill.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:47:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER objected  for the  purpose of  discussion                                                               
and  noted Representative  Wilson's  comments  addressed Sec.  3.                                                               
Representative Gardner then removed her objection.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:47:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There  being no  further  objection, Conceptual  Amendment 2  was                                                               
adopted.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:48:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON  directed attention to  Section 1, page 1,  lines 5-                                                               
14,  through  page  2,  lines  1-14, that  required  the  use  of                                                               
WorkKeys  as  a  career  preparedness assessment,  and  that  the                                                               
highest levels of the assessments  would be included on each high                                                               
school  student's transcript.    The assessments  would serve  to                                                               
inform the employment community of  a graduate's skills and would                                                               
provide  incentives for  student  achievement  during the  senior                                                               
year of high school.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:50:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE    MUNOZ   questioned    whether   WorkKeys    was                                                               
administered in 10th grade.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON  affirmed that WorkKeys  will be required  this year                                                               
for all 11th  grade students.  However, the bill  would require a                                                               
senior's highest  WorkKeys score to be  incorporated into his/her                                                               
high school transcript.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MUNOZ surmised the bill  would require the test to                                                               
be administered a second time.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:51:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON deferred  the question  to Eddy  Jeans representing                                                               
the Department of Education and Early Development (EDD).                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:52:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EDDY  JEANS, Director,  School  Finance  and Facilities  Section,                                                               
Department of Education and Early  Development (EED), in response                                                               
to Chair Seaton,  advised that the current  requirement calls for                                                               
the WorkKeys assessment to be administered in 11th grade.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MUNOZ restated her question.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS  said HB 206  would require that all  districts provide                                                               
the  assessment to  students in  12th grade;  however, the  State                                                               
Board  of  Education &  Early  Development  would reevaluate  its                                                               
decision to require the assessment in 11th grade.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:53:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE P. WILSON  opined the assessment is  of more value                                                               
when given earlier,  before 11th or 12th grade, in  order to help                                                               
students plan  an educational course,  although if given  in 12th                                                               
grade,  a   future  employer  could   see  what  a   student  has                                                               
accomplished.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:55:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BUCH  asked for  the impact  on the  department if                                                               
assessments were  required by  regulation in  11th grade,  and by                                                               
statute in 12th grade.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS  observed with  the passage of  the proposed  bill, the                                                               
assessment  would be  required in  12th grade  and he  was unsure                                                               
what  the state  board's  position  would be  on  the 11th  grade                                                               
assessment.   In  response to  Representative Wilson,  he said  a                                                               
program aligned with WorkKeys,  the Worldwide Interactive Network                                                               
(WIN)  courseware  assessment,  is  required in  8th  grade,  and                                                               
exposes students to  a similar assessment process.   Although the                                                               
state board may  eliminate the 11th grade  assessment in response                                                               
to the  proposed legislation,  the system is  in place  to expose                                                               
students to  assessments so they  can take  additional coursework                                                               
to improve their skills.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:56:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON referred  to Section  1, page  2, lines  8-12 which                                                               
read [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     (3) provide a report to  each student on the results of                                                                    
     the   student's   assessment,   based   on   nationally                                                                    
     recognized   criteria   for  evaluation   a   student's                                                                    
     preparedness  to   make  the  transition  to   work  or                                                                    
     college; and                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     (4) provide to the Alaska Commission  on Postsecondary                                                                     
     Education information needed to determine a student's                                                                      
     eligibility for financial assistance.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON  noted  that  the   above  language  establishes  a                                                               
meaningful assessment  "for those 70  percent of students  in our                                                               
schools  that  are not  going  to  college."   In  fact,  student                                                               
assessment is  of vital  state interest  to prepare  students for                                                               
career  readiness,  and  to  make the  high  school  diploma  and                                                               
transcript  meaningful  to  employers.   Although  that  was  the                                                               
intention  of  the high  school  exit  exam, an  assessment  more                                                               
completely shows a  student's level of accomplishment.   He noted                                                               
that the  WorkKeys program  was not specified  in the  bill, thus                                                               
allowing the  state board  to choose  the assessment  required by                                                               
the legislation.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:00:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   EDGMON  agreed   with  Representative   Wilson's                                                               
comment  that providing  the assessment  in 11th  grade would  be                                                               
more beneficial  to the  student.   However, indications  are the                                                               
earlier assessment would be eliminated  if the bill requiring the                                                               
assessment in 12th grade becomes  law.  He reminded the committee                                                               
of  the   high  standards  set  by   the  Governor's  Performance                                                               
Scholarship  (GPS) program,  and  other  ongoing efforts  towards                                                               
education  reform, and  opined delaying  the  assessment to  12th                                                               
grade does not  "serve our purpose in asking  students to achieve                                                               
... more."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:01:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  P.  WILSON  asked  whether the  WIN  program  was                                                               
similar to WorkKeys.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS said  yes, and added that the two  programs are aligned                                                               
and  test  similar abilities.    However,  at the  conclusion  of                                                               
WorkKeys, a student's skill levels  are indicated on a nationally                                                               
recognized certificate.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:02:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE P.  WILSON asked  whether all schools  provide the                                                               
WIN test  in 8th grade, and  if the results are  available to the                                                               
student in later years.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS  stated that  all schools are  required to  provide the                                                               
WIN  assessment in  the  8th  grade.   The  assessments are  used                                                               
immediately  to guide  students to  careers, and  to improve  the                                                               
skills necessary  for those  who have  chosen careers.   Existing                                                               
regulations have  already established an assessment  process; the                                                               
proposed  legislation moves  the final  assessment to  12th grade                                                               
and requires  the department to  incorporate the results  on high                                                               
school transcripts.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  P. WILSON  restated  her  question about  whether                                                               
students can review the assessments for self improvement.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JEANS said  he would  confirm whether  assessments are  kept                                                               
with  permanent records  and the  regulations concerning  student                                                               
access  to his/her  records.   He  assured  the committee  school                                                               
district  staff  are  trained  to  engage  the  students  in  the                                                               
assessment process early-on.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:06:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON  asked whether the WIN  assessment would be                                                               
helpful to a student interested in qualifying for a GPS.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JEANS   said  absolutely.     In  fact,  the   proposed  GPS                                                               
legislation refers to career assessment  and the WIN scores would                                                               
expose "their  areas of  weakness, that they  would need  to work                                                               
on."                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:07:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MUNOZ urged  the committee  to work  more closely                                                               
with  the  state board  in  order  to  avoid the  duplication  of                                                               
efforts  and  requirements,  and  to  maximize  opportunities  in                                                               
coordination with  the GPS program.   She  said, "I kind  of feel                                                               
like we're  getting ahead  of ourselves  with this  provision ...                                                               
I'm a little bit uncomfortable with where we're going here."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:08:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON reminded the committee  the reason the proposed bill                                                               
called for  the assessment in  the 12th grade, and  its inclusion                                                               
in transcripts was so students  would have impetus for continuous                                                               
improvement through their senior year.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:09:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GARDNER    agreed   and    recalled   discussion                                                               
recognizing that the high school  graduation qualifying exam does                                                               
not serve its  purpose and has an  unintended adverse consequence                                                               
for some  students.  She  advised having the final  assessment in                                                               
12th grade make sense because  the 8th grade assessment enables a                                                               
student to make  general plans toward higher  education, with the                                                               
assistance  of   school  staff.    Representative   Gardner  then                                                               
directed  attention  to page  2,  line  [1], and  read  [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     (c) Subject to the availability of appropriations, the                                                                     
     department shall                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
          (1) obtain a license that enables school                                                                              
     districts  to administer  the  assessment described  in                                                                    
     (b)  of this  section with  no charge  assessed to  the                                                                    
     district by the vendor of the assessment;                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER surmised students  are allowed to take the                                                               
assessment multiple times, with the culmination in 12th grade.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:11:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS confirmed  that students can take  WorkKeys many times,                                                               
but  the  department  encourages   students  to  repeat  the  WIN                                                               
assessment as it is cheaper.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:12:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GARDNER,   addressing  an   earlier   statement,                                                               
clarified that  the legislature sets state  policy for education,                                                               
and the state  board implements that policy,  thus, the committee                                                               
can "do what we think is right."                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:12:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BUCH  related  a  personal  experience  regarding                                                               
students and their  senior year at high school.   He stressed the                                                               
importance  of a  focus as  an  incentive for  a student's  final                                                               
year.    He expressed  support  for  the  initial intent  of  the                                                               
provision in  the bill,  and the  incentives in  place throughout                                                               
school years, but "there  has to be a way, where  ... we create a                                                               
doorway that they have to go through."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:14:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE P.  WILSON restated  the importance of  having the                                                               
WIN  assessment in  students' records  and available  to teachers                                                               
from 8th  grade on.  Further,  in order for the  final 12th grade                                                               
assessments to be  useful, prospective employers will  need to be                                                               
aware of  the assessments  and the  meaning of  the certificates.                                                               
The value of  the assessments depends on  the school's continuing                                                               
use  of the  results to  guide and  support a  student toward  an                                                               
education goal.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JEANS  reviewed the  regulations  and  stated that  the  WIN                                                               
assessment is given  in the 6th and 8th grades,  and can be taken                                                               
as often as desired.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:18:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON  maintained his objection to  adopting this                                                               
section  of the  bill  as  he was  unprepared  to "supersede  the                                                               
judgment of  the department  and the board  of education  at this                                                               
point."  In addition, he  expressed his concerns about the fiscal                                                               
implications  of  the  proposed   legislation  that  require  the                                                               
department to obtain  financing each year for  programs lacking a                                                               
clear-cut vision.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:20:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON  referred  to  the  proposed  GPS  legislation  and                                                               
pointed  out that  the educational  requirements of  that program                                                               
are voluntary and optional on the  part of the student.  However,                                                               
HB 206  attempts to establish  in state policy a  requirement for                                                               
assessment.   Furthermore,  the technical  track provides  for no                                                               
discrimination above a 2.5 grade  point average (GPA), therefore,                                                               
performance above that  is only tied to  the WorkKeys certificate                                                               
in the transcript.  Chair Seaton remarked:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     If  we  want   to  say  that  there  is   going  to  be                                                                    
     significance to the high school  diploma, and there's a                                                                    
     way  in which  we can  look at,  in the  future, saying                                                                    
     that  the  high  school  qualifying exam  is  really  a                                                                    
     duplicate of something that  is more directly addressed                                                                    
     with  this assessment,  I think  that we  need to  have                                                                    
     some assessment, because  otherwise we're just removing                                                                    
     any assessment for the high school diploma.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER agreed.    She added  that providing  the                                                               
WorkKeys assessment  on a graduate's  transcript for  the benefit                                                               
of a future employer does not  have the "high stakes" of the high                                                               
school qualifying  exam, which denies  high school  graduation to                                                               
those who do not pass.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON  acknowledged that the  assessment and the  exam are                                                               
not equal; nevertheless,  the assessment would provide  a tool to                                                               
evaluate the meaning  of a diploma that  the employment community                                                               
can interpret.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:24:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON moved to adopt Amendment 3 which read:                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Delete                                                                                                                     
     Page 1, lines 5-14, through page 2, lines 1-14                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER objected.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
A roll call  vote was taken.  Representatives  Munoz, Edgmon, and                                                               
Keller  voted in  favor of  Amendment 3.   Representatives  Buch,                                                               
Gardner,  Wilson,  and  Seaton  voted  against  it.    Therefore,                                                               
Amendment 3 failed by a vote of 3-4.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON called attention to  page 2, lines 15-26, related to                                                               
secondary  student enrollment  in postsecondary  institutions for                                                               
students who have passed the high  school exit exam.  He referred                                                               
to  a  memo in  the  committee  packet  from Legal  and  Research                                                               
Services,   Legislative  Affairs   Agency,   dated  3/3/10,   and                                                               
explained  that the  memo  was  in response  to  the question  of                                                               
whether the  bill affects the  teacher contract of a  teacher who                                                               
is voluntarily teaching  a dual credit course.   The response was                                                               
that the bill  does not appear to affect payments  made to public                                                               
high  school teachers,  but school  districts  may have  specific                                                               
contract conditions.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:28:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE P.  WILSON moved to adopt  Conceptual Amendment 4,                                                               
that would change the title of the  bill and add a new section to                                                               
repeal the high school exit exam.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON asked Representative Wilson to withdraw her motion.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE P. WILSON withdrew Conceptual Amendment 4.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:29:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON called attention to  a chart in the committee packet                                                               
titled, "2010  College Credit Inquiry," dated  2/26/10, and asked                                                               
the department for an explanation thereof.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JEANS  explained  that  EED  surveyed  school  districts  to                                                               
establish  which are  currently  offering dual  credits.   Listed                                                               
were five  small and  remote school districts  that do  not offer                                                               
dual  credit  or  university level  courses:    Aleutian  Region;                                                               
Chatham; Kake;  Tanana; Yakutat.   The  chart also  indicated who                                                               
pays for  the credits offered and  whether there is a  reduced or                                                               
negotiated rate.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:30:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER  offered  Conceptual  Amendment  5  which                                                               
read:                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
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     Page 2, lines 24-26                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER explained that  the language regarding the                                                               
fees for  postsecondary courses was confusing.   Furthermore, the                                                               
aforementioned chart  indicated that 70 percent  of the districts                                                               
that offer  dual credit courses pay  all or part of  the fee, and                                                               
57 percent  have negotiated  rates for credits.   She  opined the                                                               
legislature does not have to  require school districts to pay the                                                               
fees, as they already do so.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:32:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER, at the request  of Chair Seaton, withdrew                                                               
Conceptual Amendment 5.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KELLER  suggested  the   removal  of  the  entire                                                               
section related  to enrollment in postsecondary  institutions, as                                                               
the section is totally unnecessary.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON agreed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:33:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MUNOZ  opined placing  a requirement for  the fees                                                               
in  statute may  require  the  state to  cover  the  cost of  the                                                               
courses.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON disagreed.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:34:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE P.  WILSON moved  to adopt Conceptual  Amendment 6                                                               
which read:                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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     Page 2, lines 15-26                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:34:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There being no objection, Conceptual Amendment 6 was adopted.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:35:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON referred  back to Section 1,  and asked for                                                               
comment from EED on the fiscal implication of this section.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS advised  that a fiscal note attached to  the bill would                                                               
be zero, because the actions  required by the section are already                                                               
required by department regulation.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:36:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON  surmised the  11th grade  assessment would                                                               
be eliminated.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JEANS agreed,  and explained  that  the WorkKeys  assessment                                                               
would be administered  once per student.  In  further response to                                                               
Representative  Edgmon,  he  said,  "Actually,  this  section  of                                                               
legislation  almost mirrors  our regulation,  with the  exception                                                               
it's at 12th grade, instead of 11th."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:37:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON  questioned whether  the state  board would                                                               
favor scheduling the assessment during 11th or 12th grade.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS  maintained his belief  that, with the passage  of this                                                               
bill,  the department  would recommend  dropping  the 11th  grade                                                               
WorkKeys assessment.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:38:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EDGMON  asked for  the  state  board's reason  to                                                               
assess in 11th, rather than 12th grade.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS  advised that  the regulation allows  for a  student to                                                               
retake  the  exam, increase  his/her  scores,  and have  the  new                                                               
scores placed on his/her transcript.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:39:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EDGMON maintained  his  objection  to moving  the                                                               
assessment to the  12th grade, although he  expressed interest in                                                               
hearing additional testimony in support of the change.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER concurred.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:40:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BUCH asked  whether  the  legislation prevents  a                                                               
student from taking the WorkKeys assessment prior to 12th grade.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JEANS said  no; however,  the department  would encourage  a                                                               
student to  take the WIN  assessment as  it is less  expensive to                                                               
administer,  and  provides  the  same information.    In  further                                                               
response   to  Representative   Buch,  he   confirmed  that   the                                                               
significant difference  between WorkKeys and WIN  is the issuance                                                               
of  the  WorkKeys   certificate  and  the  entry   of  scores  in                                                               
transcripts.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:42:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON  asked  whether a  prospective  employer  would  be                                                               
provided  with  access  to  a student's  records  or  to  his/her                                                               
transcripts.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS said  he was unsure and would  provide that information                                                               
to the committee.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:43:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   BUCH   noted   employers  review   high   school                                                               
transcripts    and    general   education    development    (GED)                                                               
certificates.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON indicated  that the  department would  clarify this                                                               
and other issues.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:45:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE P. WILSON moved Conceptual  Amendment 7 that would                                                               
change the  title of the  bill, and add  a new section  to remove                                                               
the high school exit exam.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:45:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE P.  WILSON reminded  the committee of  its efforts                                                               
to promote  policy that  keeps kids  in school  until graduation,                                                               
especially  for  those  interested  in  the  military  because  a                                                               
diploma is required.  However,  the committee has heard testimony                                                               
that  if a  student cannot  pass the  exam, he/she  drops out  of                                                               
school.  She praised recent  positive programs that are being put                                                               
in place,  such as WorkKeys and  the GPS program, and  opined the                                                               
exit exam does not accomplish its purpose.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:47:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KELLER agreed  that  the exit  exam falls  short;                                                               
however, the exam is perceived  as an accountability measure, and                                                               
he said he could not support the amendment.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON observed that the  bill puts in place a substitution                                                               
for the exit  exam in the form  of the assessment.   He offered a                                                               
friendly amendment that would delay  the removal of the exit exam                                                               
to  allow  sufficient  time  in   order  for  the  department  to                                                               
implement  the  WorkKeys  assessment.    He  then  asked  for  an                                                               
estimate  of  the time  required  to  remove  the exit  exam  and                                                               
implement WorkKeys.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:51:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JEANS related  that under  the current  assessment contract,                                                               
the  high stakes  component  is integrated  into  the 10th  grade                                                               
assessment.  Thus, this component  would remain in the assessment                                                               
process,  but  would not  restrict  a  student from  receiving  a                                                               
diploma.  He  further advised that WorkKeys  will be administered                                                               
to each 11th grade student next year, so "move it out a year."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:51:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON asked  whether  Representative  Peggy Wilson  would                                                               
accept  a  friendly  amendment to  delay  action,  identified  as                                                               
Amendment 1 to Conceptual Amendment 7.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE P. WILSON suggested the committee vote.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:52:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS  observed that  removing the  high stakes  component of                                                               
the  exit   exam  would  not   be  difficult  and   could  happen                                                               
immediately.    Although  the department  would  not  adjust  its                                                               
assessment  process, the  results from  the exit  exam would  not                                                               
have the  high stakes nature  for students  who do not  pass, and                                                               
would not  be reported.   He concluded the high  stakes component                                                               
could be repealed immediately.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:53:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON withdrew Amendment 1 to Conceptual Amendment 7.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:53:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EDGMON asked  for  the  department's response  to                                                               
Conceptual Amendment 7.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS  acknowledged that the  department and the  state board                                                               
have had  this discussion, and the  state board is in  support of                                                               
retaining  the  high  school  qualifying exam  until  it  can  be                                                               
appropriately replaced.  As WorkKeys  is informational, it is not                                                               
an  appropriate  replacement.   The  high  stakes exam  maintains                                                               
pressure  on  school  districts to  evaluate  students'  progress                                                               
through  standards-based assessment,  and to  help students  pass                                                               
the exam.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:54:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER  expressed  her  understanding  that  the                                                               
intent of  the high stakes element  was to ensure that  a diploma                                                               
means more  than attendance and  minimal class requirements.   In                                                               
addition,  a  meaningful  diploma  ensures  that  graduates,  the                                                               
community,  and   employers  know  the  skills   that  have  been                                                               
mastered;  however,  this  information  and  more  would  now  be                                                               
available  on  the  WorkKeys  assessment  incorporated  into  the                                                               
graduate's transcript.   Therefore,  there is  no reason  for the                                                               
exit exam and she stated her support for the amendment.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:56:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON heard the majority  opinion was that the high stakes                                                               
component  was   a  detriment,  and   not  an  aid,   to  student                                                               
achievement;  however,  the  legislature must  make  this  policy                                                               
call.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:57:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON called for the question.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:58:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON restated  Conceptual Amendment  7 would  remove the                                                               
high  stakes  nature of  the  high  school graduation  qualifying                                                               
exam.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
A  roll call  vote was  taken.   Representatives Gardner,  Munoz,                                                               
Peggy Wilson,  Edgmon, and  Seaton voted  in favor  of Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 7.   Representatives Keller and Buch  voted against it.                                                               
Therefore, Conceptual Amendment 7 was adopted by a vote of 5-2.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:58:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON announced HB 206 was held.                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 206 Version P February 4, 2010.pdf HEDC 2/5/2010 8:00:00 AM
HEDC 2/10/2010 8:00:00 AM
HEDC 2/12/2010 8:00:00 AM
HEDC 2/19/2010 8:00:00 AM
HEDC 3/1/2010 8:00:00 AM
HEDC 3/8/2010 8:00:00 AM
HEDC 3/17/2010 8:00:00 AM
HB 206
HB 206 version P Sponsor Statement February 4, 2010.docx HEDC 2/5/2010 8:00:00 AM
HEDC 2/10/2010 8:00:00 AM
HEDC 2/12/2010 8:00:00 AM
HEDC 2/19/2010 8:00:00 AM
HEDC 3/1/2010 8:00:00 AM
HEDC 3/8/2010 8:00:00 AM
HEDC 3/17/2010 8:00:00 AM
HB 206
HB 206 Version P Amendment.pdf HEDC 2/19/2010 8:00:00 AM
HEDC 3/1/2010 8:00:00 AM
HEDC 3/8/2010 8:00:00 AM
HEDC 3/17/2010 8:00:00 AM
HB 206
Resumes for Eric Fry, Jeffrey Hebard, Michael Husa, Professional Teaching Practices Commission.pdf HEDC 3/17/2010 8:00:00 AM